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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: Google Book Search Reply with quote   

What's your take on Google Book Search? Are they going to succeed or they have tough challenge ahead?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

They'll succeed... they are google, everyone knows of google Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Rizzo wrote:
They'll succeed... they are google, ...

They need to find a way to work with publishers. That can be a challenge.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Google has the ability to stick there foot in the door anytime they want to. Then when they feel like it they will open the door wide with it and make it really work for those people in the Book Industry.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

LucnetSolutions wrote:
Google has the ability to stick there foot in the door anytime they want to. Then when they feel like it they will open the door wide with it and make it really work for those people in the Book Industry.
Publishing industry filed a lawsuit and it hasn't been resolved though.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Hmm, do you have a link to that?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

LucnetSolutions wrote:
Hmm, do you have a link to that?

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Authors Guild sues Google over library project

As part of its Google Print Library Project, the company is working to scan all or parts of the book collections of the University of Michigan, Harvard University, Stanford University, the New York Public Library and Oxford University. It intends to make those texts searchable on Google and to sell advertisements on the Web pages.

"This is a plain and brazen violation of copyright law," Nick Taylor, president of the New York-based Authors Guild, said in a statement about the lawsuit, which is seeking class action status. "It's not up to Google or anyone other than the authors, the rightful owners of these copyrights, to decide whether and how their works will be copied."

In response, Google defended the program in a company blog posting.

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Copyright lawsuit challenges Google's vision of digital 'library'

LOS ANGELES – Book publisher Lisa Grant recently got an e-mail from Google Inc. - the $90 billion Internet search engine.
"Hello, Lisa, we understand that you have some concerns about your books being potentially included in the Library Project," it said, referring to Google's well-known bid to digitize the book collections of major libraries, including those at the University of Michigan, Harvard, Stanford, and Oxford. The idea: scan all or portions of those collections to make the texts searchable on the Internet for users around the world.

"As you already aware," said the notice, explaining a step-by-step procedure, "you can easily exclude books from the Google Library Project."


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Google's Escalating Book Battle

Objection to Google's plan to digitize millions of library books is mounting. After months of saber-rattling, publishers made a direct thrust at the Web search giant. In a complaint filed in the U.S. District court in New York on Oct. 19, publishers McGraw-Hill (MHP), Pearson Education (PSO), Viacom's (VIA) Simon & Schuster, Penguin, and John Wiley & Sons (JWA) sued Google (GOOG) for copyright infringement (BusinessWeek and BusinessWeek Online are owned by The McGraw-Hill Companies). Google says its actions are compliant with an exemption in copyright law that makes allowances for reproduction for special purposes like research.

The suit, which seeks a ruling rather than an award for damages, reflects publishers' concerns over Google's Print for Libraries. As part of the program, Google plans to scan and index books from five of the world's major libraries, and make that content searchable using the Google's search engine (see BW Online, 9/5/05, "Google's Grand Ambitions").

While Google won widespread praise for its offer to digitize classic and obscure books in the public domain, it drew the ire of publishers and authors alike when it announced that at three of the libraries it would also scan the full texts of copyrighted books.

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I'm not saying that this is a bad idea, but publishing groups are some of the strongest lobbying groups in US. So, this is a major hurdle to Google.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Thanks for that information. I will read some of that, Yes I agree on the hurdle part.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

The following is also a good read, and it is a related information:
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In the late 1990s, I traveled a bunch to South America to talk about cyberspace. In conference after conference, I listened to South Americans describe how they were waiting for the government to enact rules so they could begin to develop business in cyberspace. That reaction puzzled me, an American. As I explained to those who would listen, in America, business wasn’t waiting for the government to “clarify” rules. It was simply building business in cyberspace without any support from government.

Yet as I listened to the Japanese describe the stuff they were doing with content in cyberspace, I realized we (America) had become South America. One presentation in particular described an extraordinary database the NII had constructed to discover relevance in linked databases, and drive traffic across a database of texts. I was astonished by the demonstration, and thought to myself that we could never build something like this in the U.S., at least until cases like the Google Book Search case was resolved.

And bingo! the moment of recognition. We are now, as the South Americans in the 1990s, waiting for the government to clarify the rules. Investment is too uncertain; the liability too unclear. We thus wait, and fall further behind nations such as Japan, where the IP (as in copyright) bar is not so keen to stifle IP (as in the goose that ...).

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

I do a part time degree and must say found google book search a great help, need a quick quote and a broader bibliography it saved hours of research!! gotta love that!

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Google doesn't build something if they think it will fail, only if they know it will succeed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

domainaddicted.com wrote:
Google doesn't build something if they think it will fail, only if they know it will succeed.


Pretty much that, this should be interesting to read, Ill bookmark it
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