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seo
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| Ant wrote: | Yeah, i did it once with phpbb, took a week to complete, was a lot fun to do (god i'm a geek) but it didn't look great so never used it, just felt accomplished and then removed it  |
Unless you're really good at CSS, it's difficult to make a complex layout like forum using CSS alone and make it look good.
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Darkman
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| Damnz wrote: | When it comes to forums, you just have to forget about the W3C compliance . Especially phpBB styles, they're so heavily bloated with tables!  |
But take a look at my forum http://templora.com
It is W3C compliant. Forum part uses tables. And the main page uses CSS.
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Zerabira
Joined: 01 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Damnz wrote: | | Another con of tables is that SEs give the values inside it some less value !! |
How true is this, have you done any tests yourself or got a link to more research?
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Fed
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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I use CSS, making the switch from tables to divs and css was kind of a pain for few days but I'd NEVER come back
css driven layouts give you more flexibility and display better than tables in the majority of modern browsers
applying a change to a table based layout can take way too much, obtaining the same result in a css driven website is often not so hard and time consuming |
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dojo
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I use both. Tables for the layout and CSS for the text and links and backgounds ... I have some very graphical sites with a lot of pieces to put together, still don't have the courage to make the layot exclusively on css
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seo
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| dojo wrote: | | I use both. Tables for the layout and CSS for the text and links and backgounds ... I have some very graphical sites with a lot of pieces to put together, still don't have the courage to make the layot exclusively on css |
There is a good reason why we want to use CSS for fonts and also lines and rectangles here and there. If we use CSS and creates an external file, we can change fonts, lines and rectangles all at once. In my opinion, you don't get as much benefit as you convert all tables to CSS.
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Fed
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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always CSS and I'd never go back, css gives you all the flexibility you might need when inserting a new element in the layout (e.g. an oversized banner, a new section...) and you can edit the layout only editing the CSS if you coded it smartly
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| Fed wrote: | | always CSS and I'd never go back, css gives you all the flexibility you might need when inserting a new element in the layout (e.g. an oversized banner, a new section...) and you can edit the layout only editing the CSS if you coded it smartly |
Then ... what do you do when you get an application that uses a bunch of tables? BBS for example?
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Fed
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I wrap the table structure into a div and add elements with divs at top or bottom if needed (banners etc)
I also use to create the headers on custom skins with divs
the board itself remains coded with tables
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Fed wrote: | I also use to create the headers on custom skins with divs
the board itself remains coded with tables |
That makes more sense. Converting all tables into divs is not easy (to me anyway).
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Fed
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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to rewrite a forum with divs you should go through all the forum files and it wouldn't be easy, it wouldn't either make sense since the structure of a forum is fine with tables in my opinion...there's no layout to display (and if you want you can code the external layout with divs) but mostly tabular data
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vyc
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Ant wrote: | | seo wrote: | | Ant wrote: | | lately i have been using just css (except forums and tabular data on sites). It was a nightmare at first but really getting the hang of it now. |
You have to be very ambitious and patient in order to convert any forum into div/css. All forum software use a bunch of tables in order to create rows and columns. Making XHTML compliant isn't that difficult, but replacing all tables with div/css is tough. |
Yeah, i did it once with phpbb, took a week to complete, was a lot fun to do (god i'm a geek) but it didn't look great so never used it, just felt accomplished and then removed it |
mmmmm, nested quotes.
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altyfc
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I usually use tables.
Reading through this, though, I guess I better brush up more no my CSS. 
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