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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: vBulletin: Negatives Reply with quote   

It seems that many members have a lot to say about various BBS (Bulletin Board System(software)), so I'm creating number of threads to discuss the topic in more detail. Here's a thread to discussion about vBulletin negatives.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Price seems to be the only drawback with vBulletin. If they halved the price I think a lot more people would use it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

price is just about it, I use it for all of my forums, theres so many mods and styles for it that it is pretty easy to customize.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Negatives? It costs a fortune. I've heard from people that it's hard to modify, but I've also heard from the same users it's hard to modify the free bulletin boards as well, so I don't exactly trust them.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Yes, the only downside is its price...its probably the best bb system on the planet...apart from Jive, but that costs $25k
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

I think that less than 1% of webmaster can even afford Jive... it's more than likley to be installed only by large companies.

To be honest, I have never used a forum running it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

www.CompuForums.org wrote:
I think that less than 1% of webmaster can even afford Jive... it's more than likley to be installed only by large companies.

To be honest, I have never used a forum running it.
Less than 1%? I'd risk to say "Less than .01%"
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

THE PRICE. it's huge for a script that's only the start of your future community.

Other than that, a good script.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

dojo wrote:
THE PRICE. it's huge for a script that's only the start of your future community.

Yeah, it seems a bit too much to start up an empty forum. I do think it makes sense to use vB at some point, but unless you have a solid plan to develop the forum, it doesn't make much sense to spend money to get this BBS.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

VB is not expensive at all. Maybe a bit for a startup but it is VERY easy to switch to it from most software.

I made the leap a year ago and there will never be any going back. It just saves me about one hour a week in admin time, which adds up to be a lot when I am doing this part time. Imagine if you had many forums and are saving a minimum of an hour from each.

Time = Money

Sometimes I think that people forget that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

capebretoner wrote:
Time = Money

Sometimes I think that people forget that.

But initial capital investment can be costly. Most people don't know that, and this is one of main reasons why most people fail in business.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote   

Sure, but if you are going to start a business and you can't afford $80 for a one year trial then your business model is not very strong is very acceptable to moderate fluxuations in the market.

I am not saying that you should go out and buy the full meal deal, but if your site is not on the way up after 6 months then you can switch to a free software and then you can use your VB license for your next venture.

Then if in the future your previous venture took off and you are being crushed from admin duties you can then purchase an owned license and be set for the duration of your online business.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

capebretoner wrote:
Sure, but if you are going to start a business and you can't afford $80 for a one year trial then your business model is not very strong is very acceptable to moderate fluxuations in the market.

I don't completely disagree, but I don't think you should take it lightly. vB license itself is $80, but expenses like this can add up. Also there is a world of difference between starting at -$80 profit and $0 profit. It's a matter of the actual $80 expense, but it's also a matter of saving up the hard cash where it can be saved. If you're running a message board as a hobby or semi-hobby, then it's not that important; the decision to spend $80 is very much up to one's preference rather than one's finance, but if you're running a business, then I think that you should take this seriously.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

capebretoner wrote:
VB is not expensive at all. Maybe a bit for a startup but it is VERY easy to switch to it from most software.

I made the leap a year ago and there will never be any going back. It just saves me about one hour a week in admin time, which adds up to be a lot when I am doing this part time. Imagine if you had many forums and are saving a minimum of an hour from each.

Time = Money

Sometimes I think that people forget that.


Ok not to rant about but how exactly it saves you one hour a week if you run vbulletin. I really do not see any difference between vbulletin and any other forum software modded a bit. I mod some forums and took me one day to become exactly as vbulletin from administrator point of view. It is really a matter of choice and not that vbulletin is the best and everything. Not to say that it is popular to have vbulletin hehe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote   

iatbm wrote:
Ok not to rant about but how exactly it saves you one hour a week if you run vbulletin. I really do not see any difference between vbulletin and any other forum software modded a bit. I mod some forums and took me one day to become exactly as vbulletin from administrator point of view. It is really a matter of choice and not that vbulletin is the best and everything. Not to say that it is popular to have vbulletin hehe.

This pretty much sums up what I wanted to say next. If giving up weekends for a month enables you to have vB equivalent of BBS, then why not? It saves $80 of hard cash. Now I'm not saying that it's terrible to spend money, nor am I saying that $80 investment to license vB is a terrible investment. I am simply saying that, if you are considering using vB to run some business, I don't think that you should take $80 lightly.

I briefly mentioned, but most businesses will fail statistically speaking. I'd risk saying that most forums wouldn't become profitable. If you just use free BBS, then you wouldn't use any hard cash even if you don't make much in the end. You know that you did better than most forums strictly financially speaking. So strictly financially speaking, there ought to be good reasons why you want to use vB.
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